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Monday, 25 March 2013

Random Shots for Sunday, 24 March 2013

Filed under: Random Shots — mikewb1971 @ 1:32 AM (01:32)

Today in history

Comments I’ve posted

  1. Re: trunthepaige

    They’re not. Most of them would probably need a full eight-hour day of classes just to figure out which end of the firearm the bullets come out of, because the instructor would need to repeat it every 30 minutes, lest they forget. Now in this “debate” that’s been going on after the Sandy Hook massacre (made easier by the victim disarmament policies they advocate), they act like we’re supposed to think they are in fact “experts.”

    Hence my repeated requests for them to list their accomplishments in the military, in law enforcement, in martial arts, etc., etc. You’ll notice that they never respond to that. In fact, “SerenaDante” and “Grannys_Place” blocked me after I put the question to each of them.

    Then I suggested to “brown_buffalo” that he visit a local shooting range and take a class or two. His response was along the lines of “So I can learn how to kill people”

    But still, we’re supposed to take their uninformed, willfully ignorant opinions as Holy Scripture, just on their say-so.

  2. Re: Why Not Accommodate the Gay?

    @Dame_Delirium – I don’t have any reason to be against same-sex marriage, or civil unions, or whatever else you want to call it. It sure would be nice if more LGBT people would speak up in support of the Second Amendment being an individual right instead of jumping on board the victim disarmament bandwagon.

  3. Re: Why Not Accommodate the Gay?

    @Celestial_Teapot – The United States Constitution protects certain rights and put them out of reach of the voting populace.

    Last time I checked, the individual right to own and carry military-pattern weapons was included in that idea.

    @ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove – @mikewb1971 – I just wrote recent posts explaining how libertarians are just a subset of liberalism.

    Yeah, I saw that one earlier. And of course, the “liberals” you complain about complain about me being in league with you. Can’t win, can I?

    From your “Simple Secular Arguments” posting – Human beings are born into a state of liberty. Liberty then, is a basic human right.

    Humans are born into a state of liberty because humans are sapient entities. They are self-aware and capable of abstract thought – they can think about thinking. As Descartes put it, “I think, therefore I am.”

    With that in mind, how would you show that God is a sapient being with all of the rights, privileges and immunities that come with sapience?

    I don’t see any reason for me to get worked up to stop you from engaging in sexual relations with persons of the same sex, or with your pets or livestock, for that matter. If you need a law or regulation to stop you from engaging in such behavior, that’s on you. Now if you were to attempt such behavior with my pets, well then, that would be a point of contention.

    @Dame_Delirium – If the states want to simply issue “marriage licenses” as “M corporations,” that would be fine with me – government’s involvement in the issue should be limited to the civil aspects. Leave the religion to the religious institutions.

  4. Posted to Facebook

    If Al Gore is truly opposed to “carbon emissions” in the form of carbon dioxide, then why does he continue to exhale so much of the stuff?!

    I need an address where he can be reached so I can send him a plastic bag. I’m sure that will help him out.

  5. Re: Why Not Accommodate the Gay?

    @Celestial_Teapot – So when Thomas Jefferson wrote No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms within his own lands, what he really meant was No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms within his own lands, provided he first seeks and obtains the permission of the Crown and the Colonial Governor ? Somehow I doubt that.

    Jefferson also said “Encourage all your virtuous dispositions, and exercise them whenever an opportunity arises, being assured that they will gain strength by exercise as a limb of the body does, and that exercise will make them habitual…Give about two of them [hours] every day to exercise; for health must not be sacrificed to learning. A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.

    Did he forget to include the part that says, But before you go about your walks with your gun, you must first seek the consent of the Federal and State governments ?

    And when Tench Coxe wrote in 1788:

    The power of the sword, say the minority…, is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people.

    He was really talking about the National Guard, which really didn’t exist until 1903?

    @ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove – I take it that you also have never read much from Jefferson?

    From Notes on Religion (October 1776):

    In the middle ages of Christianity opposition to the State opinions was hushed. The consequence was, Christianity became loaded with all the Romish follies. Nothing but free argument, raillery & even ridicule will preserve the purity of religion.

    Compulsion in religion is distinguished peculiarly from compulsion in every other thing. I may grow rich by art I am compelled to follow, I may recover health by medicines I am compelled to take against my own judgment, but I cannot be saved by a worship I disbelieve & abhor.

    Locke denies toleration to those who entertain opinions contrary to those moral rules necessary for the preservation of society; as for instance, that faith is not to be kept with those of another persuasion, . . . that dominion is founded in grace, or who will not own & teach the duty of tolerating all men in matters of religion, or who deny the existence of a god (it was a great thing to go so far—as he himself says of the parliament who framed the act of toleration . . . He says ‘neither Pagan nor Mahomedan nor Jew ought to be excluded from the civil rights of the Commonwealth because of his religion.’ Shall we suffer a Pagan to deal with us and not suffer him to pray to his god? Why have Christians been distinguished above all people who have ever lived, for persecutions? Is it because it is the genius of their religion? No, its genius is the reverse. It is the refusing toleration to those of a different opinion which has produced all the bustles and wars on account of religion. It was the misfortune of mankind that during the darker centuries the Christian priests following their ambition and avarice combining with the magistrate to divide the spoils of the people, could establish the notion that schismatics might be ousted of their possessions & destroyed. This notion we have not yet cleared ourselves from.

    Then there’s his A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1779) (p. 279 of the linked PDF) – . . .that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry;

    If that wasn’t enough, how about 1787 letter to Peter Carr, his nephew?

    As for the “discrimination” issue, SHOW ME the libertarians who are stopping you from boning (or being boned by) your pets or livestock. I as a libertarian won’t let you conduct yourself that way with my pets, but with your own pets, who am I to stop you? By yourself and your animals, it’s all good in the ‘hood, baby!

  6. Re: Why Not Accommodate the Gay?

    @Celestial_Teapot – Since you brought up D.C. v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago:

    From D.C. v. Heller:

    The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

    The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms.

    p.11 – Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

    p.16 – The right “to carry arms in the militia for the purpose of killing game” is worthy of the mad hatter.

    @ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove – Did you or did you not post the following:

    I think therefore I am sounds like postmodern Liberalism. The American Founders believed in the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God.

    If anyone counts as a “Founder,” Jefferson does. And Descartes died 119 years before Lexington Green (1775).

  7. Re: Why Not Accommodate the Gay?

    @ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove – I take it this means I won’t get an invite for your coming-out party? That hurts, but somehow, I’ll get by.

  8. Posted to Xanga

    Me, too (feel like I’m disappearing). The feeling comes and goes.

  9. Posted to Xanga

    My pages load faster than yours . . . 🙂

  10. Posted to Xanga

    @MedicMark — Being near a keyboard while intoxicated is something I try to avoid.

Listening / Reading / Watching

  1. World Net Daily: Left gets ‘vicious’ over ‘Girls on Fox News’
  2. Centers for Disease Control [CDC]: First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws – Findings from the Task Force on Community Preventive Services
  3. Asian Offbeat: Suicide Statistics in Asians: Why Do People Kill Themselves?
  4. Crooks and Liars: NBC Host Confronts LaPierre: NRA ‘Thwarting the Will of Americans’ on Gun Control
  5. New Mexico Watchdog: National GOP boss says it’s not the message, it’s the delivery
  6. PoliceOne: Colo. sheriff: I won’t enforce new gun-control bill

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